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Johnny_Chang · Nov 05, 2007, 07:17 AM // 07:17

I didn't read through any posts and don't know whether the debate of whether it exists or not has been answered. In any case, it does exist, and here is a pic.

Racthoh · Nov 05, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49

The better question would be if you can use Cyclone Axe with it.

-Loki- · Nov 05, 2007, 07:51 AM // 07:51

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

The better question would be if you can use Cyclone Axe with it.

Ghostly hero hax.

A11Eur0 · Nov 05, 2007, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Unwelcome guests should be done only after you clear the reaper of the ice wastes and forgotten vale. That way you can teleport behind the aatxes, clear the dryders in each group, then go after the keeper of souls, killing the vengefuls without even aggroing them.

N E D M · Nov 05, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

The better question would be if you can use Cyclone Axe with it.

Whirling attack FTW

Z'HA'DUM · Nov 05, 2007, 10:34 AM // 10:34

how about showing us a vid with the blade in action?^^

TideSwayer · Nov 05, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06

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Originally Posted by HayesA

Damn, just spent 2+ hours clearing UW. We killed 95% of the mobs, then decided to start the quests.

So, yeah, Unwelcome Guests was first. Started off fine, i s'pose. Then somehow 3 of the Aaxtes got aggro'd on the Reaper. Which was a "eh, dammit" moment. We tasked 1 of our 4 monks on keeping him alive while we killed the other Dryder groups. Well, we did... but then the aaxtes didn't break aggro off the reaper, nor died after we killed their leader dryder. D: It was totally bugged!

This quest is totally bugged. It has to be. The mission objective says kill the Keeper and the Aatxes will "follow him into death". Turns out, even after the Keeper of Souls is dead, the Vengeful Aatxes still only seem to die when the player(s) who are in the aatxes' aggro die first. We've been doing UW runs in my guild lately, and we usually have one person draw the Vengeful Aatxes into aggro, then we all run by him/her and kill the Keeper. This doesn't kill the Aatxes, however, We have to ask he/she who aggroed the Aatxes to die or else the Aatxes won't die, at all.

There's NO WAY that quest was designed to be like that. As far as I know, there aren't any other quests in the game that require a player to actually DIE in order to proceed. The questlog would give you instructions to die, if that were the case, and it doesn't:

Maybe my reading comprehension skills are failing me, but to me that seems to instruct me to simply kill the Keeper of Souls and then Vengeful Aatxes die immediately after.

Skuld · Nov 05, 2007, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

The better question would be if you can use Cyclone Axe with it.

I d-shop with Eternal Bows!

Lagg · Nov 05, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by TideSwayer

There's NO WAY that quest was designed to be like that. As far as I know, there aren't any other quests in the game that require a player to actually DIE in order to proceed.

This quest works well enough.

You can either teleport to another Reaper and kill the Keeper of Souls from behind or send in an overprotted tank to kill the Keeper and then get ganked by the Vengeful cows.

Other Elite areas also have situations that require a party member to die in order to overcome troublesome game mechanics. The Deep and The Foundry of Failed Creations come to mind.

HayesA · Nov 05, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by TideSwayer

This quest is totally bugged. It has to be. The mission objective says kill the Keeper and the Aatxes will "follow him into death". Turns out, even after the Keeper of Souls is dead, the Vengeful Aatxes still only seem to die when the player(s) who are in the aatxes' aggro die first. We've been doing UW runs in my guild lately, and we usually have one person draw the Vengeful Aatxes into aggro, then we all run by him/her and kill the Keeper. This doesn't kill the Aatxes, however, We have to ask he/she who aggroed the Aatxes to die or else the Aatxes won't die, at all.

There's NO WAY that quest was designed to be like that. As far as I know, there aren't any other quests in the game that require a player to actually DIE in order to proceed. The questlog would give you instructions to die, if that were the case, and it doesn't:

Maybe my reading comprehension skills are failing me, but to me that seems to instruct me to simply kill the Keeper of Souls and then Vengeful Aatxes die immediately after.

Exactaly, my friend. But we were running Ursan Blessing, except the monks who were healing us. But basically, we couldn't continue. Becaise the reaper wouldn't give us quests, or updates on quests because he was being attacked by the Aaxtes. I hope Anet fixes this bug.

Racthoh · Nov 05, 2007, 02:29 PM // 14:29

For Unwanted Guests:

Take Restore The Monuments Of Grenth first, open up the reapers at the Ice Wastes and Forgotten Veil, teleport around as necessary. You'll then need a bow to pull the closest keeper however the aatxe spawn there is usually random and sometimes you may have to aggro them as well.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Nov 05, 2007, 05:20 PM // 17:20

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Originally Posted by HayesA

Damn, just spent 2+ hours clearing UW. We killed 95% of the mobs, then decided to start the quests.

So, yeah, Unwelcome Guests was first. Started off fine, i s'pose. Then somehow 3 of the Aaxtes got aggro'd on the Reaper. Which was a "eh, dammit" moment. We tasked 1 of our 4 monks on keeping him alive while we killed the other Dryder groups. Well, we did... but then the aaxtes didn't break aggro off the reaper, nor died after we killed their leader dryder. D: It was totally bugged!

My group had that problem if the attaxes are still aggroed then they do not die. The answer is to take off your armor and get your health low as possible the AI will tellthem to attack you and you run the way they cam dfrom they should follow you after a few try then teleport with the reaper to somewhere else. They will die.

isamu kurosawa · Nov 05, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45

cleared it in 2 hours 15 mins last night in a 7 para 1 orders nec team.....no one got one

Oh well, my para has a new addition to her HoM at least.

flipfly2004 · Nov 05, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

cleared it in 2 hours 15 mins last night in a 7 para 1 orders nec team.....no one got one

Oh well, my para has a new addition to her HoM at least.

grats on fullrun!
btw... can u give me your teambuild?
im REALLY interested ^^

Tarkin · Nov 05, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Any chance of a new drop in fow HM?... i will try it...

HawkofStorms · Nov 05, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

cleared it in 2 hours 15 mins last night in a 7 para 1 orders nec team.....no one got one

Oh well, my para has a new addition to her HoM at least.

Now that is clever.

Too bad it isn't simple enough for a PUG to use. I mean, a paragon requires thought as opposed to c-space-barrage.

Malice Black · Nov 05, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38

I need to level my para...

GJ on the UW clear though.

isamu kurosawa · Nov 05, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by flipfly2004

grats on fullrun!
btw... can u give me your teambuild?
im REALLY interested ^^

can't remember everyone elses build, will have to see if i can get it of them all, was along the lines of 2 moti para's, an expel hexes para with mending refrain, a command para with burning refrain and some cruel spear guys with an orders nec to finnish it off.

I was a moti para running:

Song of restoration
Chorus of restoration
energizing chorus
ballad of restoration
spear of lightning
There's nothing to fear
They're on fire
Signet of Return

Just goes to show paragons > PvE

My para has now completed all 3 campaigns, done DoA and UW with a total of 2 deaths. First from jadoth 2nd from being body blocked in an army of vengeful aatxes after getting a lag spike.

lyra_song · Nov 05, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

and people continue to say that paragons suck.

Bryant Again · Nov 05, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

and people continue to say that paragons suck.

People are just ignorant/stupid/both.

Nov 05, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38	#117
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	I need to level my para... GJ on the UW clear though. __________________ Old Skool '05

Nov 05, 2007, 07:17 AM // 07:17	#101
Johnny_Chang Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006	I didn't read through any posts and don't know whether the debate of whether it exists or not has been answered. In any case, it does exist, and here is a pic.

Nov 05, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49	#102
Racthoh Did I hear 7 heroes? Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)	The better question would be if you can use Cyclone Axe with it.

Nov 05, 2007, 08:30 AM // 08:30	#104
A11Eur0 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	Unwelcome guests should be done only after you clear the reaper of the ice wastes and forgotten vale. That way you can teleport behind the aatxes, clear the dryders in each group, then go after the keeper of souls, killing the vengefuls without even aggroing them.

Nov 05, 2007, 10:34 AM // 10:34	#106
Z'HA'DUM Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: E/Me	how about showing us a vid with the blade in action?^^

Nov 05, 2007, 02:29 PM // 14:29	#111
Racthoh Did I hear 7 heroes? Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)	For Unwanted Guests: Take Restore The Monuments Of Grenth first, open up the reapers at the Ice Wastes and Forgotten Veil, teleport around as necessary. You'll then need a bow to pull the closest keeper however the aatxe spawn there is usually random and sometimes you may have to aggro them as well.

Nov 05, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#113
isamu kurosawa Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Profession: Me/	cleared it in 2 hours 15 mins last night in a 7 para 1 orders nec team.....no one got one Oh well, my para has a new addition to her HoM at least.

Nov 05, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23	#115
Tarkin Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: W/N	Any chance of a new drop in fow HM?... i will try it...

Nov 05, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27	#119
lyra_song Hell's Protector Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/Mo	and people continue to say that paragons suck.